Pastor McCain on the Tridentine Mass and the Motu Proprio

Amid all the comments on Continuity and Discontinuity blog, Pastor Paul T. McCain asked:

Dave, have you done a post on your thoughts/reactions to the soon to be issued papal pronouncement on the Tridentine Mass?

Seem to me that the Old Order Mass will be a step backwards for Rome and will make it even easier for Roman parishes to fall back into precisely the very thing that Lutherans in the 16th century found *so* objectionable: the Mass as practiced by Rome.

Your thoughts? I will look forward to your thoughts on this. Thanks. Blessings, Paul.

A couple of quick thoughts:

1) It is worth pointing out that giving a universal indult for the celebration of the 1962 Mass will probably not have a great affect on the bulk of the Catholic population

2) There isn’t much in the Novus Ordo (Eucharistic Prayer I) which differs theologically from the 1962 Mass–although the English translations have perhaps obscured the similarity. We expect this latter situation to change anyway with the new translations in preparation (I think Lutherans would welcome the new translations personally). All the sacrificial language is still there. It isn’t as if that has been dropped in any way at all–except by those ignorant of the liturgy and doctrine of the Church. (I should point out that the sacrificial theology is present in all the Eucharist prayers, not just no. 1.)

3) It is true that post-Vatican II addressed the Reformation call for the liturgy in the vernacular. But the Novus Ordo Mass is still the Latin Mass and can be said in Latin at any time, so I don’t think that is an issue.

Is there an issue I haven’t addressed here? Perhaps if Pastor McCain were specific about what parts of the pre-Vatican II Mass were/are particularly objectionable to Lutherans, I could be more specific about whether these “objectionable parts” are still in the Novus Ordo.

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