Finally at the end of a long comments discussion here, PE and I reach a point of agreement:
First, he makes it clear that when he says “the Catholic Church is a preposterous and monstrous sham” he is not saying that it is a “preposterous and monstrous sham of the church of the Creed”. That clarification helps a lot.
And he also helpfully points out the fact that our different perspectives come from differing but parallel experiences:
“You joined [Catholicism] because in the post conciliar Church you found the church you learnt in Lutheranism; I left the post conciliar Church because the church I learnt in Catholicism I could not find there.”
That seems to be about as good a summary of both our agreement and differences as one could possibly get.
See how helpful dialogue can be?
Ecumenical breakthrough! ;-)
LOL! :-) So the Novus Ordo *DID* bring in New Converts! :-) — Tell that to a Lefevrist/SSPX the next time You see one! :-)